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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 8:12:29 GMT 1
When they met they were stangers.Not Friends.
That is the purpose of the TV Prog.
She was not happy with the remarks at the time as they were not made by a Friend but by a stranger.!
She has put it behind her and is getting on with the show.
The PR team are trying to sort it but Brucie has reignighted it.!!
Making a Racist remark does not make one a Racist but they were racist remarks just as Jade Goody's were.
He has accepted this and apologised so I think the matter should be finished with now.
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 8:17:16 GMT 1
I would never refer to anyone as a N.i.gg.er or a wog though I still use the word darkie to describe African/Carribeans I don't know personally. The only time I use the word Ni.gg.er is to describe 'wrap music' when the young ones in the pub have music channel or the juke box on in the lounge. I hate the stuff and will shout at the top of my voice 'turn that N.igg.er music aff' as that what it symbolises to me black American kids pretending that they are hip hop stereo type 'N.igg.ers' you used to see in old American movies. Mind you seeing white kids acting like stereo type N,i.gg.ers is even more annoying it is well seeing why the black kids call them 'whiggers' as a reference to 'white Ni.gg.ers'.
You will note that the word Ni.gg.er is normally allowed on these boards and if it is posted it will come up as Commonwealth Cousin - you have been warned.
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Post by helen on Oct 10, 2009 8:22:18 GMT 1
Only giving my slant on it, I am not an expert on this particular incident and have not been following it avidly in the media, I have never even seen the programme, no one has to agree with me, It's my own personal opinion not a statement of fact as I don't know what was in either of the protagonist's minds when they made the remarks so I don't know whether they were intended to be derogatory in a general racist sense against a whole race of people, or were said in a personal manner to one person either in anger and lack of education or merely in jest, and neither does anyone else.
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Post by helen on Oct 10, 2009 8:26:01 GMT 1
Nor mine, ahm pro Athiest masell
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 8:40:26 GMT 1
Of course where you live Nell it widnae be entirely PC for you to walk about calling your neighbours 'darkies' but the only coloured guy we have in our social circle is Big Davie McCafferty and he is quite simply known to all in sundry in Parkhead as 'Darkie Davie'. Traditionally Scottish history is full of people who have a prefix before or after their name i.e. the Black Douglas or Red Comyn. My own clan Donald have numerous chiefs or leaders with the name Black (Dubh) as a prefix to their name or in one case 'Amy the red-head' and there are many reference to people in Gaelic history with a reference to the colour of their hair. i.e. the fair headed etc., Now I am not suggesting for one minute that the PC Brigade are going to start attacking the long dead chieftians of Scottish clans but you never know. Considering that Ba Bu was removed from Irn Bru cans , Baa Baa black sheep is banned from nurseries , black dolls are no longer known as golly-wogs , the wee golly no longer adorns the jam jars anything is possible. Mind you the best one ever is the Camp Coffee bottles where the label used to shown an Indian Sepoy serving the British Army Scots Officer his cup of coffee...nowadays they are still on the label but they are both seated and sharing a cup of coffee and having a chat about who is going to win the 2.30 at Delhi Racecourse. The 10 to1 favourite a horse called Indian Mutiny no doubt ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 8:40:27 GMT 1
To call a stranger a Paki and ask if they are a Terrorist because of the colour of their skin , in my book , is offensive and racist.
I can only judge on the way I would behave.
Would I have said that.? NO
If that makes me a bleeding heart so mote it be.
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 8:45:16 GMT 1
You 'coonty' guys 'fae across the watter' were always a wee bit different fae us Glesga folk Andy...
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Post by helen on Oct 10, 2009 9:07:02 GMT 1
Sorry didn't know he asked her if she was a terrorist, totally different view if that was the case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 9:12:25 GMT 1
He also asked her if she was a Terrorist ? Why should she withdraw , she has done nothing wrong here ? He should ? This was my response when it was suggested that if she was so upset she should leave the show..
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 9:23:36 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 9:28:57 GMT 1
You've got me on that wan Andy. I never read or heard that he also asked her if she was a terrorist. Paki , terrorist whit does it matter they are aw bomb-chucking bar studs to me - or am I getting mixed up wi' some other ethnic minority.
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 9:37:14 GMT 1
Rooinek, Khaki, Soutie In South Africa the term 'Pom' may also be used, while Afrikaans speakers use the term rooinek (literally 'red neck', another reference to sunburn.
I like that wan Rooinek. I used to use 'the Riddrie Redneck' as my nick name on the Follow Follow boards before I got barred for about the tenth time...Orange bar studs that they ur. ;D Anyway I could just see myself using the sobriquet the Big Riddrie Rooinek...certainly makes a difference fae that 'Big Fat Baw Faced Roger Hunt fae Riddrie' whit I am usually called by some in the pub.
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Post by helen on Oct 10, 2009 9:52:45 GMT 1
Another wan of yir wee friendly grenades Charlie, yir nuthin bit a big reprobate
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Post by helen on Oct 10, 2009 10:01:22 GMT 1
Good link Charlie, ah liked this wan: Afro-Saxon A young white male devotee of black pop culture Ye see plenty of thame in London
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 10:05:20 GMT 1
Thought I had better as some will not believe.
From BBC Website
The BBC has reportedly received a number of complaints over Strictly Come Dancing star Anton Du Beke's racist remark.
Du Beke made a public apology yesterday after a Sunday tabloid revealed that he had described his celebrity dance partner Laila Rouass as a "P**i". He is said to have used the racially offensive term after she turned up for a rehearsal with a spray tan two weeks ago.
According to The Guardian, 63 viewers have now contacted the corporation to express their anger over the comment.
A BBC spokesman said: "Anton Du Beke has apologised to Laila, who has accepted his apology." The professional dancer also joked that Rouass could be a "terrorist" after hearing about her Moroccan heritage last month.
Anti-racism groups have called for Du Beke to be sacked from Strictly in the aftermath of the revelations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 10:34:06 GMT 1
. .. HAW CHARLIE next time ye see ye sikh guys tell them gora singh said gidah pagee Gora Singh? Ur you no gettin mixed up wi The X Factor instead o Come Dancin, Pitbull? Ah think aw this palaver aboot "Paki" bein offensive is jist a lotta nonsense - it's another example of the thought police in action. These people are control freaks who want tae dictate not only how people should act, but how they should talk and think. As has already been pointed out, Paki is merely a contraction of Pakistani - somebody who comes from, or lives in, Pakistan - and has no inherent racist meaning whatsover.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 10:38:06 GMT 1
. .. HAW CHARLIE next time ye see ye sikh guys tell them gora singh said gidah pagee Gora Singh? Ur you no gettin mixed up wi The X Factor instead o Come Dancin, Pitbull? GGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAANNNN
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 10:41:50 GMT 1
Glad tae see the tonsils ur still in fine fettle, Andymo. ;D
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 10:55:34 GMT 1
I never doubted you AndyMo...I just never read or heard about it. Just as well he never said 'she had the face and erse like a camel' then the feminists would have also went mental.
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 10:56:55 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 11:04:18 GMT 1
A BBC spokesman said: "Anton Du Beke has apologised to Laila, who has accepted his apology." The professional dancer also joked that Rouass could be a "terrorist" after hearing about her Moroccan heritage last month. From what i have read in other newspapers there has been a apoligy for the referance to naming her a Paki , but nothing about calling her a terrorist, like it says in the above BBC report could he have been joking when he made a coment to someone saying she could be a terrorist
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Post by patrick on Oct 10, 2009 11:06:10 GMT 1
If it was her natural colour why did she need a spray tan? ??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 11:20:35 GMT 1
Andymo, I agree with everything you have said. Charlie, if you think there is nothing wrong with expressing the "N" word, then why do you spell it the way you do, ie with dots after some of the letters, thus breaking the word up Billydan, using the word Paki to describe someone from Pakistan is in my view racist and this defence of "oh it's not being used in a derogatory manner" just doesn't stand up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 11:21:08 GMT 1
If it was her natural colour why did she need a spray tan? ?? Good question but i have seen shows patrick were there are kids in these dancing compititions that get sprayed, then they get caked with make up, then sent on the dancefloor with a smile on their faces, and i for one think they look terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 11:31:06 GMT 1
Mrs. Andymo reckons the Dancer has a funny shaped head Bang to rights. ! Good you agree with everything andymo has said caterina, I suppose it is ok to write about the shape of someones head as long as it is a white head we write about. is this not offensive
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 11:50:55 GMT 1
Andymo, I agree with everything you have said. Charlie, if you think there is nothing wrong with expressing the "N" word, then why do you spell it the way you do, ie with dots after some of the letters, thus breaking the word up Billydan, using the word Paki to describe someone from Pakistan is in my view racist and this defence of "oh it's not being used in a derogatory manner" just doesn't stand up. Seems to me Caterina you have just seen the name Ni.gg.er and reacted accordingly rather than read what I actually wrote which was 'I would never refer to anyone as a Ni.gg.er or Wog.' And any reference to the word on these boards will automatically change to Commonwealth Cousin...that is why I have used the dots to get the banned word on here to make my point in reference to the Ni.gg.er word. Mind you I could always replace it with Northern Irish Gers...which no doubt would be also considered offencesive to some. My answer to all or any ethnic minority who are offended or upset by anything that the indigenous people of these little islands may or may not call them is simple 'Why Don't You Go Home...' And as I watch our wee country playing against Japan on the telly at fitba we are not allowed to call them Japs in case we offend them...aye right I could think of a hundred names I could call them that would more than upset the wee bar studs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 11:59:39 GMT 1
Mrs. Andymo reckons the Dancer has a funny shaped head Bang to rights. ! Good you agree with everything andymo has said caterina, I suppose it is ok to write about the shape of someones head as long as it is a white head we write about. is this not offensive I have shown your Post to Mrs. Andymo Henrietta. She is full of contrition and thoroughly ashamed of herself. She said you are quite right to take her to task for this monstrous statement but has assured me that if he had been Black , with a funny shaped head , she would have reacted in exactly the same way. She is currently looking for a Black Guy with a funny shaped head and to prove her fairness she will tell me to Post without fear or favour and tell you what he is guilty of. However in my Wifes defence I have to agree that he has a funny shaped head. She thinks these things can tell innocence or guilt more accurately than months of a silly Trial. Her Sister agrees with her. PS Henrietta, Funny Eyes can also determine guilt or whether or not to vote for a Politician.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 12:06:38 GMT 1
I am not 100% sure Charlie , not being a PC nut but I think Jap is acceptable ?
The Scottish Team better be carefull or they could end up being hit with sticks and forced to build a Rail Road !
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Post by Waverley on Oct 10, 2009 12:09:15 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 12:47:11 GMT 1
Andymo, I agree with everything you have said. Billydan, using the word Paki to describe someone from Pakistan is in my view racist and this defence of "oh it's not being used in a derogatory manner" just doesn't stand up. . You and I against the World again Caterina and I suspect not for the last time.!! No Surrender--Eh !
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