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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 13:29:29 GMT 1
A photo of the all conquering Lady of Fatima taem from the early 1960's...can you name them. Back Row L to R. ? , ? , ? , ? , ? , Fitzpatrick . Front Row L to R. ? , Reilly , ? , Jim Glasgow ,? MacLean
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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 12:53:04 GMT 1
Yer pullin' some magic oot the today Charlie Yes Peter we have had a few crackers donated to the Glesga Keelies Collection which I will gradually put on here as we build the new site.
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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 12:26:10 GMT 1
Charlie, feckin magic. I see my old house on the first photie, and its just the way I remember it. Widny mind a copy. I'll get them for you Peter.
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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 12:23:52 GMT 1
A British League consisting of Celtic and Rangers and 20 English teams...as there are no other teams in Scotland who could hope to compete in such a League. A British League is the dream of the Old Firm whilst the major teams in England would rather be in a European League which I doubt if either half of the Old Firm would be welcomed to join.
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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 11:34:47 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Aug 1, 2009 10:08:35 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jul 30, 2009 22:51:39 GMT 1
I have tried to hold my tongue when it has come to the beautiful game in this country. I try not to get into the usual keech that surrounds Rangers and Celtic games with stupid statements of 'blind faith' we'll win by four or five etc., - dafties do my nut in from either side. Last night's result at Parkhead was not unexpected but surprising nevertheless as I thought that Celtic would have enough in store to beat the Ruskies. However, tonights results from Aberdeen and the defeat of Motherwell beggars the question - at what level are we expected to compete thesedays. Admitedly the three clubs representing us have had bad results and the Aberdeen result is an absolute shocker...although as a Rangers supporter I can't say that I am bitterly disappointed. However, as a fitba fan I am concerned at the result and what it will do to Scots football in general and I am also concerned as to what level our game will sink to before we wake up to what is happening to our game. We dont produce the players we used to due to a variety of reasons , we lack leadership at the highest level and our two strongest teams who used to be feared throughout Europe are now a mere shadow of what they used to be...so where did it all go wrong.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 22:39:45 GMT 1
Andy I have been in touch with a social history Professor who has written articles on the Italians and the Lithuanians in this country in the 1930's which he published several years ago and telling their story...which seems to have slipped the minds of the present day public apologists for everyone bar the indigenous Presbyterian people of the country. Do the indigenous Presbyterians need an apologist ? If so you are the man for the job AndyMo you know my attitude keech happens pal...we all have had blockades and hurdles put up in front of us in the people's struggle to gain acceptance whether you be a Proddy, Kafflick , Yid or Darkie but hey half the problem was with us rather than the percieved injustice of our creed , religion or race etc., - the usual keech. It has always been my belief if you are good enough you will overcome any predujice no matter what if you are strong enough and have the confidence to be right in your enemies face.. Life is to short and I have no time for MOPES - judge yourself before you judge others is my message to them.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 22:31:41 GMT 1
Andy I will be ordering them this week and will loan them to you when I get them...if you know your history then you will know where you are coming from.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 22:29:41 GMT 1
And my auld school anaw the bar studs...
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 22:17:52 GMT 1
The the way the country is going with all these 'Stop The War' Muslims Marches and Irish Republican Marches it won't be long till the 'Lutwaffe Veterans ' have a March in Clydebank in memory of their 'shot down' comrades.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 22:09:45 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jul 27, 2009 14:48:17 GMT 1
I have known for years that the majority of Italians in Glasgow prior to the Second World War were sympathetic to the right wing cause of Mussolini and his Fascista Party. I recently asked on another site why they are building a memorial in Glasgow - St. Andrew's Cathedral - to the Italian prisoners of war who were killed when the Germans sunk the S.S.Arandona Star off the coast of Ireland during the Second World. I was told in no uncertain terms that these Italians were British nationals and had only been rounded up once Churchill issued his famous 'collar the lot of them' statement...how many of them were in attendance at this march or were the sons of the marchers.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 26, 2009 10:36:32 GMT 1
The "Curse of Scotland"
The following is taken from The Playing-Card, Volume XXV, number 3, p. 120.
From "The Official Encyclopedia of Bridge, 5th edition" (American Contract Bridge League):
A term applied to the 9 of diamonds, for which various explanations are given, none completely authoritative. The Bridge Magazine once listed six possible origins for the term as follows:
That in the once popular round game 'Pope Joan', the 9 of diamonds was called the Pope, the antichrist of Scottish Reformers.
That the 9 of diamonds was the chief card in the game 'cornette', introduced into Scotland by the unhappy Queen Mary.
That 'Butcher' Cumberland wrote the orders for the Balle of Culloden, 1746, on the back of the card. This is very doubtful.
That the order for the Massacre of Glencoe (1692) was signed on the back of this card.
That the dispositions for the fatal field of Flodden (1513) were drawn up on it by James IV of Scotland.
Both these last have only the slightest authority.
That it is derived from the nine lozenges that formed the arms of the Earl of Stair, who was especially loathed for his connection with the Massacre of Glencoe and the union with England (1707).
The following comments are to be found in the "Dictionary of Phrase and Fable", Dr Ebenezer Cobham Brewer, 1870, revised edition, Ivor H. Evans, 1981:
The Curse of Scotland. The nine of diamonds. The phrase seems to be first recorded in the early 18th century, for in Houston's Memoirs (1715-1747), we are told that Lord Justice Clerk Ormistone became universally hated in Scotland, and was called the Curse of Scotland; and when ladies encountered the nine of diamonds at cards they called it Justice Clerk.
Among the suggested origin of the phrase are:
It may refer to the arms of Dalrymple, Earl of Stair (see (6) above).
as in point (2) above
as in point (3) above
The word 'curse' is a corruption of cross, and the nine of diamonds is so arranged as to form a St. Andrew's Cross; but so are the other nines.
as in point (5) above
Grose says somewhat inaccurately in his Tour Thro' Scotland (1789); "Diamonds... imply royalty... and every ninth king of Scotland has been observed for many ages to be a tyrant and a curse to the country."
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Post by Waverley on Jul 25, 2009 12:08:48 GMT 1
I had the great surprise of being contacted today by my old friend John Gorevan whose book we feature in the Bookery Nook section of Glesga Keelies. I have managed to acquire a link to our John's own web-site which deals with pubs all over the city...a great read and a real trip down memory lane. Highly recommended... ;D oldglasgowpubs.co.uk/ www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk/index.htmlHaven't been on this site for a wee while but my old pal John just keeps battering away and coming up with some reall gems. Highly recommended for a good read. ;D
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Post by Waverley on Jul 24, 2009 15:28:13 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jul 22, 2009 22:22:17 GMT 1
Seems to be open at this end AndyMo...bought the book last week and read it within a couple of days. Fantastic read and makes you proud to be a supporter of a team that wasn't founded on sectarian or 'dummy charity' reasons...watch out for the 'rotten mob' trying to re=invent themselves yet again.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 22, 2009 20:27:53 GMT 1
I would've done the maps but I am still barred from Follow Follow...seems I am too radical for them and can only access their board through my mates computer.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 22, 2009 20:25:25 GMT 1
You might just be on to something there Charlie Peter it isn't my idea it is already done by some Rangers fans on Follow Follow I have still to do the maps...a good wee tour even if I have to say s myself.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 22, 2009 20:23:13 GMT 1
Hi....never mind the Rangers one!!!....when are you doing the Covenanters? Get your priorities right hen...the Rangers come first in all things in life. ;D
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Post by Waverley on Jul 22, 2009 16:51:36 GMT 1
Would make an interesting wee walk some weekend....
The Rangers Trail
1. Flesher's Haugh. Birthplace of Rangers Football Club. The Club played its first game here in May 1872, a 0-0 draw with Callander, and stayed for three years. Peter McNeil had to arrive several hours before kick-off every Saturday and claim a patch of the recreation ground on which his team could play.
2.Clyde Amateur Rowing Club Boathouse. The original boathouse that our Founders would have used in the early 1870s. It was situated almost directly across from the current location.
3. 40 Hutcheson Street, Site of The Metropolitan Restaurant owned by Tom Vallance. 'Honest Tom' hosted a 21st Anniversary celebration here in 1898 toasting our first appearance in the Scottish Cup Final in 1877. He told players from both clubs: "The same spirit that characterised football in the old days has gone. It has been reduced to a purely mercenary matter."
4. 89 Glassford Street, Ancell's Restaurant. Rangers held many after match functions here, most notably in August 1887 when Peter McNeil gave a speech after the match against 'The Invincibles' of Preston North End to celebrate the opening of the first Ibrox Park.
5. 36 Buchanan Street. Ferguson and Forrester's.Rangers held a dinner here on Monday April 9th 1923 to mark the Club's jubilee. Diners tucked into a feast that included saumon bouilli, sorbet au mandarin and cour de filet de boeuf.
6. House of Fraser, Buchanan Street. Originally built in the 19th century for Stewart and McDonald, retail giants and supporters of Rangers in the early years. John McNeil, father of Peter and Moses, was gardener for John McDonald at Belmore House, where Moses was born in 1855. It is now part of the Faslane Naval base.
7. 91 Union Street. site of the second H and P McNeil sports outfitter store. Harry and Peter moved here in 1883 and stayed until the business closed circa 1896.
8. 21-23 Renfield Street. Site of the original H and P McNeil sports outfitters. They provided kits for all sports and all teams throughout Britain and were also official outfitters to the Clydesdale Harriers.
SUBWAY to St.Georges Cross
9. 29 Baliol Street. Moses was living here in 1901, when it was known as Stanley Street, as a lodger. He was listed in the census as a brush and oils salesman.
10. Burnbank. Rangers moved here in 1875 and stayed for one year. Rangers originally shared the recreational space with rugby club Glasgow Accies. The Caledonian Cricket Club also played on the site.
11. 32 Gibson Street (three up, first door, name on door). Peter McNeil and his family moved here circa 1897 as his mental decline became more marked. Wife Janet was forced to take in lodgers in a bid to pay the £25 a year rent. It was Peter's last address in Glasgow before his move to Hawkhead Asylum.
12. Kelvingrove Park. Known as West End Park in March 1872 when the idea to establish a club, to become to be known as Rangers, was discussed by Moses and Peter McNeil, Peter Campbell and William McBeath.
13. 37 Bentinck Street. Peter McNeil and family living here in 1891.
14. 169 Berkeley Street. Elizabeth McNeil, sister of Peter and Moses, ran a home from home for her brothers and her friends from the address for many years. Moses, Peter and William all stayed here, has did John and James Campbell, brothers of Peter. It was to here the McNeils' parents, John and Jean, returned in the late 1880s before their deaths in 1890.
15. 17 Cleveden Street. Elizabeth, Peter, James, Harry and William McNeil were all living here in 1871. In the same close also lived William McBeath, his sister Jane and their mother, also Jane.
BUS - # 9 or 62 to Partick from St.Vincent Street at St.Vincent Terrace.
16. Hamilton Crescent. West of Scotland Cricket Club. Scene of our first Scottish Cup Final on the 17th March 1877 v Vale of Leven which ended in a very controversial 1-1 draw. The first replay on April 7, which ended in the same scoreline, was also played here. The games drew incredible crowds of 12,000 and 15,000. The third match was played at the first Hampden Park and was won by the men from Alexandria, 3-2.
SUBWAY- to Cessnock and a BUS # 3,9,54,55,56 to Craigton Cemetery.
17. Craigton Cemetery. Legends of Rangers are buried here, including Bill Struth and Peter and Willie McNeil. The McNeils' parents, John and Jean, are also buried in the same lair as their sons. In plots either side lay two other McNeil brothers, James and Alexander, and their families.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 21:33:55 GMT 1
It's bein' so happy that keeps ye goin' eh Charlie? Aye youv'e gueessed it mate. I just get fed up wi' people coming up to me and saying ' see that wee site of yours it is wrang' because I know a guy who says yer talking keech about Whitby Street Railway Station'...whit can I say I provide them with the original black and white photo the exact time , date and year the photograph was taken plus the programme for the opening of the floodlights at Celtic Park = but I am still wrang.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 21:25:55 GMT 1
There is actually another picture of the station which I think is the better one of the two taken back in 1963'ish...plus I have numerous photos of it when it was demolished and before it was used as a landfill. There are plans afoot to build houses on it.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 21:20:59 GMT 1
wasn,t there a shop in whitby st near the clansmen end, tam? There was a shop in between the buildings Patrick it was destroyed when a chimney crashed down on it during the Great Storm of 1968. There was also Eyles & Lees the electrical and TV repair shop and a hairdressrs called Joan's in my time in the 1970's.Don't know what the other shop ws but it became another shop for Eyles & Lees...sadly both shops are deserted thesedays.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 20:19:13 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 18:21:56 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 17:46:23 GMT 1
I am making fish and chips for our lunch today.but i can't get mine to look like that .I will just do like usual dip the cod into flour,then egg,then breadcrumbs. i don't have a deep fryer anymore,and I don't have a good recipe to make the batter. Amethyst. The secret is to use iced water when making up the batter Patricia,
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 12:17:41 GMT 1
Sprigfield Cross circa 1912.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 10:51:12 GMT 1
Andy sent these gems...
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Post by Waverley on Jul 19, 2009 10:13:57 GMT 1
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