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Post by Waverley on Dec 1, 2007 21:06:13 GMT 1
Stairway 13 , The story of the 1971 Ibrox Disaster by Paul Colier & Donald S.Taylor. A small publication which if nothing else dispels the urban myth that the 66 victims of the Ibrox Disaster died as a direct result of trying to get back up Stairway 13 in order to celebrate Colin Stein's equaliser against Celtic on that fateful and never to be forgotten day in 1971.
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Post by pitbull on Jan 15, 2008 21:34:38 GMT 1
it was no myth i was in the middle of this and am a first hand witness and survivor. the only myth to this story is that emergency sevices were there in minutes complete and utter rubbish we were pulling bodies out for a good while before we saw anyone official, and that was the police, maybe about 20 minutes an ambulance man arrived and he never came in from the sreet he arrived from the south side of the ground and try,d to give mouth to mouth to bodies we left on the grass verge. jimmy smith and my da, and myself there was a few others later no one knew what to do as the cops wouldnt let us back up the stairs and no one would answer there doors behind the stadium to phone for an ambulance. we looked up to the windows and i saw a woman with her hands up at her face looking up to the stairway but wouldnt answer her door.(probaly shocked) at what she saw. and these guys that wrote this book were they in the crowd pushing like hell and clambering over fences to get out, i doubt it very much. they probaly were not even there.
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Post by Waverley on Jan 16, 2008 3:35:10 GMT 1
PitBull we have discussed this before on another board. The two guys who wrote the book wrote it for one simple reason to dispel the myth that the Ibrox Disaster happened because people began to rush back into the ground to find out who scored Rangers' equaliser. It is not a classic by any means and is quite a small publication but it does get the point across of the events leading up to the Disaster and also the outcome of the public enquiry...which clearly states that it was a freak accident caused by someone or persons stumbling on the way down the stairs which caused a domino effect.
I came down that stair that fateful day a full 4 or 5 minutes after the game had ended and I know that no one came back up the stair to find out who scored our equaliser if they did then I would not have been here to reply to your post. It was actually happening behind me as I reached the bottom of the stairs but I was toally unaware of it until I got home to the London Road.
The guys who wrote the book have only collected so much of the evidence available by interviewing survivors, police officers, players , football officials , journalists and photographers and medical staff at the hospitals whether they were actually on Stairway 13 is irrelavant as they are both well respected football researchers who only wanted to know the truth and to dispel the myth of Stairway 13.
I would suggest you buy the book as it is only £5.99 and available at most good bookshops.
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Post by arty123 on Jan 16, 2008 12:24:00 GMT 1
Charlie,like yourself my brother and i came down that stairway at least 5mins after the final whistle and did not see anything,although my feet did not touch the ground until we reached the bottom, Arty123
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2008 15:22:51 GMT 1
I was at that game i usually stay till the end but left early that day. why i don't know but thank god that i did. Will never forget that day as long as i live.
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Post by pwm437 on Jan 18, 2008 16:44:53 GMT 1
It was the first ever Old Firm game I ever went to. Yes, a day etched in my mind for life.
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Post by pitbull on Mar 23, 2008 14:48:43 GMT 1
heres a wee question how would anyone know if people came back up the stairs as the final whislte went and were pushed back to cause a stumble hence the domino affect? and 3 or four minutes later no one was coming down them stairs because when me and my mate smidy looked at each other at the bottom of stairway 13 we both said where the feck is everybody there may huv been a few stragglers, but i dont recall seeing many or any and we went back up to pull the first few bodies out until the big avalanches of bodies alive and dead.
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Post by justjoe on Apr 8, 2008 1:18:21 GMT 1
I was at Ibrox that day as well, the other end. Was with my dad, I took him. My mother wouldnt let me go to an old firm game myself, so i had to get him to come as well, even though he didnt have a clue how to get there etc.
Anyway we stayed to the end, and even let the crowds clear away and went out. Walked round to Copland road for the subway, and waited ages. There wasn't any real sign of anything major happening, but an ambulance did go by. We then heard that "a few people had been hurt". When we got off at Georges X , the paper seller was saying it was " a few dead". But by the time we got a bus up Maryhill road and got home the full story was emerging. My mother said we werent to go to any more big games. "We" didnt go t o another old firm game for years, But I just went myself in the meantime.
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Post by Waverley on Apr 22, 2008 18:25:52 GMT 1
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