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Post by Waverley on Mar 31, 2007 0:49:54 GMT 1
Anyone interested in helping to preserve and keeping the memorials to the Covenanters in good condition for future generations should join the Scottish Covenanters Memorial Association. www.covenanter.org.uk/covenanters/
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Post by Waverley on Apr 27, 2007 22:54:58 GMT 1
Posted a cheque today to a most worthwhile organisation who keep alive the memory of a period of Scots history which is largely ignored...for reasons that no one can understand. Teachers in history classes in Scotland can tell pupils to leap from 1638 t0 1715 in their history books without an explanation - proves to me our education system stinks.
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Post by Waverley on Jun 10, 2007 19:22:09 GMT 1
I reeived a surprise gift yesterday from the SCMA a copy of their 40th Anniversary book called 'The Disciples of Old Mortality' an excellent wee publication from an even more excellent Asscociation. Well worth the annual subsription fees.
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Post by Waverley on May 28, 2008 3:02:58 GMT 1
I was saddened to read in my SCMA newsletter that I received today that George Scott who was so involved with the early days of the SCMA had passed away in March. His knowledge on the history of the Covenanters was never ending and was always there to help me whenever I was struggling to try and research a piece of Covenanting history. A lovely man who had time to spare for anyone who was keen to learn of the history of the Covenanters and will be a great loss to those of us who have an interest in Scots history. His lasting memorial on this planet will be his never ending work getting Covenanting sites and gravestones rededicated or replaced when they were damaged or vandalised...George you are one of Scotland's unsung heroes and it was my privilege and pleasure to have known you.
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Post by Sandy Hills on May 29, 2008 1:41:47 GMT 1
As you said Charlie,little was taught in schools about what I consider to be one of the greatest chapters in Scotland's history it was only after reading the books of Jock Purves that I came to an understanding of what true belief was all about.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2008 18:28:38 GMT 1
I am in the middle of reading a book written by Dane Love, Called tales from the killing times, short stories about the Scottish covenanter's these poor people were hung Drawn and quartered men women and children all because, they would not change their believe in their religion and church, I have to agree with sandy hills shame on the SCOTTISH, EDUCATION SYSTEM . I feel that all school in Scotland, should include the years between [16 37 to 1688] in their history lessons.
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Post by holywell37 on Jun 21, 2008 11:48:18 GMT 1
see if you can find any thing in your book about the covenanters massacreing hundreds of royalists after they had surrendered to them from dunaverty castle at southend on the mull of kintyre. both sides were as bad as each other.
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Post by asbo on Jun 21, 2008 15:57:21 GMT 1
The Covenanters were massacred on a routine level over a period of many years. I could imagine it would be easy for them to lose their discipline when they suddenly found they had the upper hand against their tormentors. Those were truly terrible times.
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Post by Waverley on Jun 21, 2008 16:32:47 GMT 1
Dont know too much about Dunaverty Castle holywell but I do know about Newark Castle near Philliphaugh where the Irish were massacred along with their camp followers of old men , women and children. I have been there a couple of times and it is eerie to say the least... 17th century warfare was not played by the rules of the Geneva Convention especially when it revolved around sieges when Aberdeen was sacked and raped by Colkitto MacDonald's Irish Army. Cromwell is forever remembered for the sacking of Drogheda and Wexford but other towns surrendered when given the opportunity and their defenders were spared their lives which happened at Waterford during the same campaign in Ireland.
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Post by holywell37 on Jun 21, 2008 17:30:34 GMT 1
when you read a scottish history book, it's biased towards one side or the other, unless it's written by an outsider with no axe to grind.
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Post by holywell37 on Jun 21, 2008 17:31:18 GMT 1
when you read a scottish history book, it's biased towards one side or the other, unless it's written by an outsider with no axe to grind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2008 18:40:44 GMT 1
Hi holywell i agree with you but surly the Scottish education dept should be and MUST be totally neutral on this subject.
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Post by Waverley on Jun 21, 2008 21:04:45 GMT 1
Hi holywell i agree with you but surly the Scottish education dept should be and MUST be totally neutral on this subject. The thing is Alex there is very little in the Scottish Education system which relates to the Covenanters and what there is they are normally painted as martyrs or zealots... very little in relation to their input into the bigger picture of the Civil Wra in England and their campaigns in Ireland. I have my own thought son why this is but there again if I aired them I would be accussed of being biased but I find it really starnge why an important part of Scots history has been literally air-brushed out of the history books...Sir Wakter Scott has a lot to answer for as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Waverley on Aug 11, 2008 0:05:23 GMT 1
A wee photo of me at the Covenanters memorial in the Grassmarket in Edinburgh in 1988. We laid a wreath on the 350th Anniversary of the signing of the Covenant in memory of all who died and perished during the 50 year struggle against the tyranny of the Scottish Crown and the despotic House of Stuart
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Post by Jean on Aug 11, 2008 19:01:34 GMT 1
Nice photo Charlie, you must be a mind of information when it comes to Scottish History! Jean
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 18:24:53 GMT 1
Nice photo charlie
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