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Post by Waverley on Dec 1, 2007 20:51:43 GMT 1
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Post by asbo on Dec 1, 2007 21:43:54 GMT 1
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Post by pwm437 on Dec 2, 2007 10:16:55 GMT 1
I remember that day most vividly, as it was the first Old Firm game I ever attended. Went there with my two older brothers, we were in the enclosure. Got back home before we knew anything about it.
That night I went out with a mate for an under age 'cairry-oot', and we went to somebody's house for a few hours. He was talking all night about his brother not back yet from Ibrox.
Tom McRobbie from Stamford Street died at Ibrox aged 16.
I attended the funeral with a few others and teachers from Rivvy, at Tollcross churchyard.
A black day for Glasgow, and a black day for me.
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Post by Waverley on Dec 2, 2007 10:48:36 GMT 1
The boy McRobbie was in my dormitory when we done the SS Nevasa Cruise with Riveride School in 1968..his Auntie Betty from Carntyne attends my Day Centre.
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Post by pwm437 on Dec 2, 2007 12:45:20 GMT 1
I still see his brother Bobby, usually in the forge. The family still live in Camlachie.
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Post by Waverley on Dec 31, 2007 1:18:49 GMT 1
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Post by Waverley on Jan 5, 2008 13:31:38 GMT 1
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Post by adaline on Jan 5, 2008 15:05:02 GMT 1
Thanks Charlie! that brought a lump to my throat as I remember the disaster so well.
Myself and a few friends were standing outside the Sideline pub at the corner of London Rd and Feilden St when the news came through, I think this is one of those things that happen and you remember exactly where you were.
Aye tae absent friends.
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Post by Waverley on Jan 5, 2008 17:49:27 GMT 1
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Post by pitbull on Jan 12, 2008 15:50:59 GMT 1
we were standing at 13 that day me smidy aged 17 me 16 and my da, 35 we moved halfway up to avoid the rush as it approached fulltime i saw my mate smidy, and said hold on a minute and said the same tae my da, as i wanted to see the dying moments to see if we scored, and that probaly saved our lives, we headed to the top as the whistle went when big collie scored. and on the way out guys were shouting tae get back my feet was lifted straight aff the floor, i managed tae get to the fence and climbed over my mate smidy got thrown over by a copper, we ran down the grassy hill and it was eerie no one was coming down the stairs i was shouting for my da, and smidy , and smidy came out the other side of the fence to were i came from , we went up the stairs and the bodies must of been 10 feet high or more i remember pulling a couple guys out wi smidy, it was hard because of the weight of the bodies on a guy we were pulling out he was screaming for help,and said he couldnt feel his legs, we managed to get maybe 6 guys out and carried some down the stairs and laid them out on the grass we also ran about like headless chickens trying to get someone to phone an ambulance, my da, try,d to give mouth to mouth to a guy but i think he was already dead, so he chucked his coat over his face. we went back up a few more times and there was a massive surge of terrified and screaming some already dead bodies like an avalanche came pouring down the stairs and me and smidy had to turn and run back down the stairs for our lives ,the cops came and told us to get out the way, maybe 15 minutes later there was talk of the emergency services getting there quickly only thing i saw was maybe two policemen who where overwhelmed by the situation and helpless in the commotion, there was a trickle of cops came from the front end of the stadium but it was ages. we eventually left maybe an hour later and me and smidy walked it back to main street brigton my da, stayed in govan and went to the nearest pub , i was only up in glesga at the time visiting family and went to the match as we always went to the old firm games. when i got to my aunties house she just slapped me across the face, then cuddled me, and cry,d why did ye no phone me ,she said, i didnae huv a clue it was as bad as what it was, the telly was on with newsflashes telling the rising count of the dead, that was the worst newyears (hogmany) i can ever remember. there was a book on this situation and i can comment on it as i was the first one out of the incident and survivor, sometimes i read peoples explanations of what they so called experts say happened unless ye were there tae see what actually did happen dont comment and i mean these media punters not the folk on here, and as i said in glesgapals the surge of the people leaving pushed the ones trying to get back to celebrate the goal, back down the stairs someone tripping and they aw fell over each other on the way down, NOT THE BARRIERS COLLAPSING. the barriers got buckled by the weight of the bodies pressing against them, i was there and thats what i saw. and definately no one would of got back in to see what happened in the terraces because the stairs at gate 13 was blocked solid by dead and dying and injured people. we were watching a dvd film a couple of weeks ago called 300 spartans they stacked the bodies really high to use as a barricade, and when i saw them in that film all moving an surging forward , i said to my wife thats what it was like at ibrox when i was on that stairway.
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Post by adaline on Jan 12, 2008 19:30:09 GMT 1
I was reading your story there Pitbul and could only imagine the panic you must have felt, I've always said you don't understand anything fully until you have experienced it and what an experience that must have been. I know how we felt waiting on the news to see if all the people we knew were at the game to come home and thankfully they did.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 1:18:53 GMT 1
I was Just to the right of the main Stand and on final whistle exited to our laft as car was parked at Bellahouston.
Got back to Pub, had a few bevvies then heard it comming over on the TV.
Our wives were going frantic , we did not know, they did and My Wife knew that was where we usually stood but volume of Fans drove us to the left.
My wife phoned the Pub and from then we were all phoning our Families to let them know we were OK.
I often think with great sadness the poor Wives and Mothers who got the dreadfull news
Same Pals , still remember.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2008 22:24:34 GMT 1
I remember that sad day with a sense of panic. My dad, a Celtic supporter from Springfield Rd, always went to Ibrox with his pals on the Rangers Supporters bus. That day he went as usual. When the news broke I was frantic as dad hadn't come home from the game. That in itself wasn't unusual as he always went for a drink afterwards, but that night was different. I found him in the pub in Easterhouse old village and he told me when he left the ground he didn't even know about the accident. One of my neighbours' sons died that day. It was a horrible day in Scottish sporting history.
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Post by Waverley on Jan 1, 2009 14:35:09 GMT 1
A Survivor of the Ibrox Disaster Almost all memory of the game escapes me now, apart from the end, but what happened on Stairway 13 will haunt me for the rest of my days. It was well after the final whistle when my five mates and I made our way towards the Stairway 13 exit, as was usual at that time there was crushing at the top of the stairs, especially at big games. As I started down I was lifted of my feet by the press of the crown, again not unusual, but about a quarter of the way down I began slowly falling forward and the crush began to be unbearable until about half way down the crowd stopped moving but the pressure continued. I was trapped, being crushed and lying almost horizontally, I managed to somehow free my upper chest and just managed to breath. Around me I could hear shouting and cries but as time went on, (I was trapped for at least 45 minutes), these decreased until it was almost silent. I just wanted to sleep, (asphyxiation, lack of oxygen), but the man nearest to me slapped my face to try and keep me alert. I stayed conscious throughout until rescued by the police and was carried and laid out on the pitch, remember this would be about 6 PM on January 2, dark sky, (the floodlights on), cold. I was then carried into the stadium and this is the worst part, I could not speak, was barely breathing, cold, also in shock and was put in a dressing room were all around me were stretchers with bodies, no sound, already covered up. That sent me over the edge and I started crying, it was then a nurse spotted the tears and I was quickly removed from the stadium to the Victoria Infirmary along with another badly injured man. There I was treated for broken ankle and crush injuries. I didn't go back to Ibrox or any football match for 17 years but have since returned and am now, proudly a Ibrox season ticket holder. I was eighteen in 1971 and for the past almost 30 years have met people that were at the game but have never met or talked to any of the 145 others who were injured. This is the first time I have written my account and although the injuries healed I know the mental pain is still there for many survivors and victim's families. A friend sent me this story of a survivors memories of that terrible day...which along with our PitBull's story tells us all how bad it actually was for those who witnessed it as it happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2009 11:12:26 GMT 1
Every year I remember.
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Post by helen on Jan 3, 2009 0:50:56 GMT 1
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Post by pitbull on Mar 2, 2009 22:12:14 GMT 1
i,d really love to go and see an old firm game again , i,ve never been back to one after the disaster, if i remember rightly i was up in glasgow for a wee holiday and went to the one match rangers versus arsenal on the centenary match, i was always a regular at ibrox and away games too with varios supporters clubs in brigton, the mermaid , the glennifer, the blue lagoon the station bar the cactus and masons bar and the bristol, many moons ago now, who knows i might return one day with my boy and show him a proper derby game and better than the liverpool and everton matches atmoshere wise but i think the english premier just is a wee bit better, especially after watching that last 0-0 game on setanta then watching aston villa and everton afterwards. made the spl look second rate. i,m sorry to say.
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Post by patrick on Mar 3, 2009 23:38:44 GMT 1
I agree with you jack but you have to remember there isnt the money in the spl that there is in the english premire div. you get 30million pounds for getting nocked out of the preimership in england what do you get in scotland s.f..k a.
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Post by thecaltondefender on Sept 11, 2009 16:10:20 GMT 1
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Post by thecaltondefender on Sept 11, 2009 16:52:55 GMT 1
[http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Camlachie/72k40o3.jpg[ Remember that day if it was yesterday,we left Stevenson Taylor"s pub in camlachie on a double decker bus,if i recall this was Tam McRobie(stamford st.)+Wullie Sommervill(gallowgate)above the general wolfe. 1st old firm game,as usual all the east-end bears met at passage way13,after the 1st goal 100s of the bear"s headed for the exit,then when the Gers equalized as they say the rest is history,as young lad"s we got carried with the crowd we managed to get back up the stairs, a few of us headed towards the derry shed as it was called then,and went out through the celtic end,we met up with John McCabe who was on the Sideline bus,he got us on that,what gang we where in was out the window as they say,when we got back to stevie taylor"s,11 of us where unaccounted for,by late saturday night it was only Tam & Wullie who where missing & 3 where detained in the southern general... P.S.some well known families went on that bus. Wrights,Glovers,Kirkwoods.Britains,Bain,Flemmings,McCauslands, Faulds,Riley"s to name but a few..oh happy days
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Post by thecaltondefender on Sept 14, 2009 16:51:26 GMT 1
ticket from the match + the ticket from the benifit game that was played at hampden on 27/1/71 to raise funds for the famlies of the bereaved Attachments:
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Post by jawbox on Feb 14, 2010 9:01:25 GMT 1
Like many others here I was there that day with my Dad, my Uncle and my cousin's husband, I was visiting from England for N'erday. We always used to stand next to passageway 13 when we went to Ibrox ("The North East corner") my Dad used to call it. I don't need to explain what happened again as it is well covered here but when the match ended we waited a minute or two to let the crowds thin out, previously we used to leave by the stairs at 13 but this time we saw what it was like and went out the other exit opposite. It was only when we got back to the car and turned the radio on that the first words we heard were .... "and we can now report at least 5 dead at Ibrox" which we couldnt understand at the time as we did not know that anything was wrong. When we got back home to East Kilbride there had already been a phone call from my mother in law in England to find out if I was OK. It was a sad sad day.
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Post by Waverley on Jan 2, 2013 10:46:16 GMT 1
On today of all days let us all raise a glass to the memory of those who went to a football match and never came home...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 17:54:57 GMT 1
I was there, I remember.
Glass raised. !
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Post by jawbox on Jan 3, 2013 9:00:12 GMT 1
As you were then so once was I....
Here's tae us wha's like us
I was there with my Dad, Uncle and cousin's husband when we got into the car and put on the radio they said "and now 6 reported dead from Ibrox". We couldn't believe it, such a sad day.
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Post by Beth on Jan 3, 2013 11:19:20 GMT 1
Allan said "There but for the grace of God" They waited til the end and did not try to leave early. That was the gate they normally went out but because of all the confusion they left by the other gate
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Post by thecaltondefender on Jan 3, 2013 23:52:45 GMT 1
went over to ibrox as i have done every year to pay my respects to absent friends,it still hurts to this day the memories of the scenes at stair case 13........
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