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Post by patrick on Aug 15, 2009 13:53:50 GMT 1
the hill ran all the way along the backs of quarrynowe st right up to caroline st, I am not 100% sure but there may have been a fence or a railing halfway along, some of it was grass and some of it clay trotsky.
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Post by tammccann on Aug 15, 2009 14:29:13 GMT 1
Your right Trotsky there was Westmuir quarry and Caroline pit This map from 1900
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Post by briancharlton on Aug 15, 2009 14:42:16 GMT 1
The school clinic was between the Doctors Surgery at the corner and the school. In one of your photos reply 32 where the fence is now. Hope this helps you. I think you are correct Weanie. I just wasn't sure as there is not much space between the Jannie's house and the doctors surgery and I remember the clinic being quite a big place, but then I was only a kid and things looked bigger. Brian.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2009 15:00:53 GMT 1
I think when I was really wee my aunt used to take us to play there....can't remember what we called it. The sanny pit or something like that.
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Post by Waverley on Aug 15, 2009 15:29:41 GMT 1
There was some kind of yard or former factory at the Pharonhill Street end and Quarrybrae Model later Community Centre - which is now luxury flats - looked down on it...the new Quarrybrae Primary School ioverlooks it now from Crail Street and the old school is earmarked for demolition from what I know. The Mitchell Library © 2009
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2009 15:41:08 GMT 1
What was th emode? Was it for working men? Who actually stayed there?
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Post by Waverley on Aug 15, 2009 15:47:07 GMT 1
What was th emode? Was it for working men? Who actually stayed there? It was originally built as a Model Lodging Home to house the large influx of Irish and English workers who moved into the are seeking emploment in the nearby Parkhead Forge and all the feeder industries that grew up in and around the area.
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Post by trotsky on Aug 15, 2009 15:47:59 GMT 1
Notice from the map Tam that there is two coal pits and a Colliers Row, I wonder if the two pits were connected underground and those were the two shafts going down or whether it was open caste mine which could explain the clay quarry that was left over as they dug the coal out? Hello Patrick I remember a broken fence or railings as well, think they ran up the hill and separated the green bit from the clay bit and at the bottom ran along the edge where the scrap yard was. Irene I think we called them the clay hills but the sanny pit sounds familiar as well
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Post by Waverley on Aug 16, 2009 14:44:03 GMT 1
Westmuir Quarry and Caroline Pit ares hown on an 1858 Map I have of the area...and in a 1912 map of the area the factory is listed as a Tallow Works and also nearby a Varnish Works.
Westmuir Colliery. Gavin Brown , Manager, A great coalfield 200 years in use, extending from Shettleston in the east to Camlachie in the west, a considerable part being within the Parliamentary Boundary of Glasgow. The workings are shown on Examination Traces are confined to the Boundary of the Proprietor's ground , the whole of which has been wrought at a depth of forty fathoms. There is a second seam being worked 40 fathoms below the first or original workings. It is expected that it will be as productive as the first or original workings. At present there are threee pits open on this colliery, each having names. One of them is inside the Parliamentary Boundary. There is also one ld pit used for pumping out water. At Shettleston there are Offices for the business of the Colliery. It is the property of J.H.Grey Esquire, by who it is wropught in company with ohers.
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Post by patrick on Aug 17, 2009 12:05:17 GMT 1
that building in re;post43 was where we kids from quarrybrae school went for our dinner monday to friday.
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Post by trotsky on Aug 17, 2009 13:25:19 GMT 1
From your quote Charlie it sounds like a deep shaft mine with a number of shafts going down rather than a open caste which could have explained the clay hills at Quarryknowe, so maybe the clay was dug out to make bricks to build the Forge From Tams 1900 map you can see both pit heads but where is the Parkhead Forge, was it built on top of the colliery then, thought the Forge existed before 1900
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Post by tammccann on Aug 17, 2009 15:51:05 GMT 1
The forge was a bit further up on the map Trotsky and only on one side of the road ,, thia map 1858
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Post by lindyloo22 on Jul 1, 2010 9:18:07 GMT 1
The newsagent on the corner was McArthers and the scrappie was owned by Harold Morris brother of Victor Morris who owns the Gun shop in Argyle St his wife Anne had a ladies dress shop in town I think it was Hope st but canny be sure.
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Post by macduff on Feb 11, 2011 14:27:56 GMT 1
I rememer the chip shop at corner of Quarrybrea. Mum and I would walk from MacDuff street to this chip shop every Friday to get the dinner in. There was a chip shop at bottom of MacDuff street at the time but we liked the chips from Crail Street shops. Does anyone remember the terrible murder of a child in Crail Street. It would be about the time they started to pull the buildinds down. My cousin Nancy Leishman(nee Bisset) used to have a flat in Crial Street across from the chip shop before she went to Australia
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Post by lindyloo22 on Feb 11, 2011 14:53:45 GMT 1
I rememer the chip shop at corner of Quarrybrea. Mum and I would walk from MacDuff street to this chip shop every Friday to get the dinner in. There was a chip shop at bottom of MacDuff street at the time but we liked the chips from Crail Street shops. Does anyone remember the terrible murder of a child in Crail Street. It would be about the time they started to pull the buildinds down. My cousin Nancy Leishman(nee Bisset) used to have a flat in Crial Street across from the chip shop before she went to Australia When was this murder Mcduff?, I don't remember it at all. I went to Quarrybrae from 64 to 69.I think all the buildings were still there at that time.I remember the chippie next door to Franks the newsagent and sweetie shop.Frank was scary
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Post by pwm437 on Feb 12, 2011 12:31:17 GMT 1
The only entries I have on Crail Street incidents are as follows;
11th September 1964 a four year old girl knocked down and killed (Glasgow Herald 12/09/64)
6th October 1968 a four year old girl was injured at number 62 when she fell 20ft into the stairwell. (Glasgow Herald 07/10/68)
I'll try and track down a possible murder next time I'm at the Mitchell
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Post by lindyloo22 on Feb 12, 2011 17:55:31 GMT 1
The only entries I have on Crail Street incidents are as follows; 11th September 1964 a four year old girl knocked down and killed (Glasgow Herald 12/09/64) 6th October 1968 a four year old girl was injured at number 62 when she fell 20ft into the stairwell. (Glasgow Herald 07/10/68) I'll try and track down a possible murder next time I'm at the Mitchell Thanks Peter as I said I don't remember a thing about the murder.
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Post by macduff on Feb 14, 2011 14:46:09 GMT 1
I am not sure lindyloo22. I think around the early 70's. I thnk the body was found in one of the buildings that had been borded up before it was pulled down. I will check with my cousin who stayed there.
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Post by macduff on Feb 16, 2011 12:00:44 GMT 1
Hi I have to apologise it seems my memory isn't great. I spoke to one of my cousins about what I thought was a murder in Crail street. It turns out there wasn't a murder but a child was found in a back close and had been abused. My cousin thinks it was around the late 60's or early 70's as they had started to pull the houses down.
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Post by lindyloo22 on Feb 16, 2011 13:19:22 GMT 1
Hi I have to apologise it seems my memory isn't great. I spoke to one of my cousins about what I thought was a murder in Crail street. It turns out there wasn't a murder but a child was found in a back close and had been abused. My cousin thinks it was around the late 60's or early 70's as they had started to pull the houses down. Just as horrific Mcduff.
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Post by kiltie on Feb 17, 2011 10:47:33 GMT 1
There was a murder in the area of crail st and the clay hills,in the late sixties early seventies,I think joe coutts was found not guilty,it was judged as being self defence or not proven,think the person murdered was called bryce.
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Post by trotsky on Feb 17, 2011 11:48:29 GMT 1
Yes thats right kiltie, think it was in the 60's. The names are correct. They were both in the same gang, the Border, but had a fall out in the betting shop then had a fight over in Crail street where the scrap yard and clay hill were. Seem tae remember that it was self defense but he still did time, three years but was out sooner. They both had younger brothers who were also part of the Parkhead Border gang and afterwards they still hung about together.
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Post by pwm437 on Feb 18, 2011 18:57:55 GMT 1
I remember Joe Coutts. I worked with him at Stephens & Carter in Tollcross. He was a scaffolder.
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Post by lindyloo22 on Feb 18, 2011 19:03:53 GMT 1
Joe Coutts stayed below me in Academy St and the niece of the fellow Bryce worked for me in my salon in parkhead her father was the brother of the guy who died.
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Post by patrick on Feb 23, 2011 23:25:49 GMT 1
Behind the clinic there was spare ground, thats where all the square Goe's took place.
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Post by lindyloo22 on Feb 23, 2011 23:54:52 GMT 1
Behind the clinic there was spare ground, thats where all the square Goe's took place.[/quot Aye a remember them every day eftur school wae st marks
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Post by adaline on Feb 24, 2011 20:41:05 GMT 1
Frank said he remembers the square goes, he was in a few of them when he went to St Marks.
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Post by Karen on Apr 30, 2015 22:13:17 GMT 1
PS I meant to say I was born 1955 at home. I remember there was a Dr Grant I think he was Dr Murrays husband. Oh I remember they doctors when I was a small child I left the practice in 1990 Dr mcguigan was a young doctor back then wonder where she is now
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Post by Kaz on May 7, 2016 16:00:52 GMT 1
Anyone remember the chemist on Westmuir st when you turn left at the end of Craig St ... It's used sell wee toy monkeys and they used to smoke wee thin cigarettes that came with the monkey ... Also had my ears pierced in there in the 70's
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Post by mary Marshall on Mar 4, 2018 23:03:55 GMT 1
The only entries I have on Crail Street incidents are as follows; 11th September 1964 a four year old girl knocked down and killed (Glasgow Herald 12/09/64) 6th October 1968 a four year old girl was injured at number 62 when she fell 20ft into the stairwell. (Glasgow Herald 07/10/68) I'll try and track down a possible murder next time I'm at the Mitchell Would you know the child’s name.?
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