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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 13:51:15 GMT 1
I noticed the avatar you use Charlie is based on a wee east end character called the wee macgregor, take it you know that they made footballers based on that wee guy, i have a Celtic one and have seen a rangers one, also of a soldier and possibly other Scottish characters, the figures measure 14 inches high and date from around 1900ish, they were made by Brittania pottery which was in Glebe St Townhead, i just recently picked up 2 of Morton players dating from 1922 which were made for them beating rangers in the Scottish Cup final of 1922, do you or anyone else on the forum know of any other Glasgow pottery characters that was based on wee Macgregor and made by Britannia Pottery? www.historicalkits.co.uk/Scottish_Football_League/Greenock_Morton/Greenock_Morton.htm
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Post by Waverley on Jun 27, 2011 14:26:54 GMT 1
Jamie I have seen the Rangers and Celtic ones before. I am sure that they were on display in the People's Palace for years. Never saw the Morton ones though...interesting all the same as Rangers were the first to wear the Hoops between the two Glesga clubs albeit only for a season in the 1870's. I have recently written to a sports outfitters who are willing to make some of them for us with the original Rangers crest embroidered on them. Sorry I am not to clued up on pottery issues Jamie though I do have a booklet about Barrowfield delpth and east end pottery lying about the house somewhere.
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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 15:21:27 GMT 1
This one appeared in a Edinburgh auction, no ball and looks like a soldier, more your field Charlie, any idea?
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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 15:28:54 GMT 1
The rangers wan
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Post by Waverley on Jun 27, 2011 15:32:07 GMT 1
Strange looking one Jamie could the strip be meant to be khaki in colour.
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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 15:34:53 GMT 1
looks like a re-paint tae me but no sure
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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 17:01:22 GMT 1
Also known as " Wee MacGreegor" Seemingly there was a film made in 1922 called Wee MacGregors Sweetheart, everything seems to be based on JJ Joys evening times cartoons, many books including Wee MacGregor enlists etc. ONE of the best loved characters of Scottish fiction is brought to theatrical life by Scottish Youth Theatre during Mayfest. He is Wee Macgregor, whose tales first appeared in the Evening Times at the turn of the century and were later turned into a book which has since sold hundreds of thousands of copies. Wee Macgregor is a boy of around seven or eight from the decent and kind sort of working-class family with which Glasgow's East End abounds, now and then. He has a wee sister called Jeannie, A Maw called Lizzie and a Paw called John. Heres a link to his creator: www.theglasgowstory.com/story.php?id=TGSEH08
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 17:54:32 GMT 1
It maybe done subconsciously Tollcross but you made the picture of the Rangers statue much smaller than the others, but I think he looks the best, l.o.l.
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Post by tollcross on Jun 27, 2011 23:54:31 GMT 1
Nae need tae ask what ones the worst then not a case of i made smaller Henrietta it was the only size i could save
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Post by Waverley on Jun 28, 2011 14:35:14 GMT 1
Also known as " Wee MacGreegor" Seemingly there was a film made in 1922 called Wee MacGregors Sweetheart, everything seems to be based on JJ Joys evening times cartoons, many books including Wee MacGregor enlists etc. ONE of the best loved characters of Scottish fiction is brought to theatrical life by Scottish Youth Theatre during Mayfest. He is Wee Macgregor, whose tales first appeared in the Evening Times at the turn of the century and were later turned into a book which has since sold hundreds of thousands of copies. Wee Macgregor is a boy of around seven or eight from the decent and kind sort of working-class family with which Glasgow's East End abounds, now and then. He has a wee sister called Jeannie, A Maw called Lizzie and a Paw called John. Heres a link to his creator: www.theglasgowstory.com/story.php?id=TGSEH08I am well aware of the character 'Wee MacGregor' Jamie having first read the book of the same name some fifty year ago as a wean at London Road School. I bought an original copy of the book a few years ago and my son redrew my avatar and the 'Three McGreegor's' as the Glesga Keelies logo...I think we will assign the wee Celtic one as your avatar Jamie and call him 'Wee O'Gregor'..
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Post by tollcross on Jun 28, 2011 15:54:23 GMT 1
That will do for me Charlie jist noticed it on the other thread Cannae say i had ever heard o him until i got the Celtic figure about 15 yr ago, guy who sold me it said it wis a wee mcgregor and i looked him up and found oot more about him.
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Post by tollcross on Jul 1, 2011 16:11:45 GMT 1
Friends in high Riddrie
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Post by patrick on Jul 1, 2011 16:39:23 GMT 1
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Post by tollcross on Jul 3, 2011 14:36:01 GMT 1
Wee Willie MacGregor - Rangers This one made for the 1922 Scottish Cup Final between Rangers v Morton, slightly different from others i have seen as hes holding the ball, according to the Rangers museum made by Britannia Pottery between 25th March and the 15 April 1922 Britannia were founded in 1856 by R Cochran his son took over the business on his father’s death in 1869. In 1896 J Arnold Fleming joined him as a partner. The company ceased trading in 1935 Still not as good as the Celtic one which is approx 20 years older
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Post by Waverley on Jul 3, 2011 15:41:04 GMT 1
Jamie did they do remoulds of these figures sometime in the 1980's as I am sure I saw them in the Barras and other places...
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Post by tollcross on Jul 3, 2011 15:48:20 GMT 1
Bud Quinn who owned the market right next tae the squirrel had a original Celtic one and got remoulds made to sell, i have one he gave me at the time.
Sadly old bud it not keeping too well.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 3, 2011 15:52:51 GMT 1
That explains it Jamie. Even I would have bought the Celtic ones if I had thought they were originals...
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Post by tollcross on Jul 3, 2011 16:03:57 GMT 1
I once offered him £500 for his original as its in perfect nick, he was up for selling me it but his son said he wanted to keep it, a few rangers ones have came up for auction over the years, the 2 i know of sold for around £300 and both had damage, a perfect celtic one sold for a grand + 15% at christies glasgow about 10 yrs ago, roon aboot the same time a damaged Celtic one sold for £360, the one i have is damaged so im still on the look-oot for a perfect one.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 4, 2011 11:29:19 GMT 1
I'm jealous Tollcross ;D Stop yer moaning I've changed it for ye...some people canny see keech go by without waanting a bit o' it. ;D
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Post by patrick on Jul 4, 2011 18:16:28 GMT 1
Top man Charlie,x
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Post by tollcross on Jul 6, 2011 13:12:40 GMT 1
Appears to be another rangers one
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Post by patrick on Jul 6, 2011 17:48:25 GMT 1
How can you tell an original from a copy Charlie?
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Post by tollcross on Jul 10, 2011 19:31:08 GMT 1
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Post by tollcross on Jul 10, 2011 19:42:37 GMT 1
Jamie I have seen the Rangers and Celtic ones before. I am sure that they were on display in the People's Palace for years.
Took advantage of the 5p entrance and treated my wife and daughter to the hampden tour & museum the day , they have the celtic and rangers wee macgregor on display in their museum, absolutely loved the memorabilia oan display but no too keen oan the tour.
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Post by tollcross on Jul 10, 2011 19:52:08 GMT 1
How can you tell an original from a copy Charlie? This is a copy Patrick, no sure what team its black & white the paint on the face and arms/hands has worn off and it does not have the small hole at the back of the head which all the others have, im assuming whoever had this one copied could not afford to have it glazed over.
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Post by Waverley on Jul 10, 2011 19:54:04 GMT 1
I took a few of my auld yins there a few month back Jamie...we just done the museum visit. Interesting all the same and there was some good exhibits on display.
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Post by Gibbsy on Jul 10, 2011 19:58:32 GMT 1
How can you tell an original from a copy Charlie? This is a copy Patrick, no sure what team its black & white the paint on the face and arms/hands has worn off and it does not have the small hole at the back of the head which all the others have, im assuming whoever had this one copied could not afford to have it glazed over. Would Queens Park be a totally wrong guess?
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Post by tollcross on Jul 10, 2011 20:58:47 GMT 1
Yir probably correct Gibbsy, Glasgow pottery Glasgow Team so makes sense, im going to get a pal o mine to paint it in the Celtic Colours see how it turns oot, funny enuff this mate was a art teacher at London Rd, Newlands and Rivvy.
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